Interesting take

9andaWiggle said:
Late term, I agree - unless it is medically recommended due to complications. Early term, I feel it's more humane to abort it before it even knows it exists than to bring it into the world unwanted and unloved.

Let's face it... for the most part, responsible people are not going to be facing this decision. There are accidents, lapses in good judgement, but overall a responsible person who makes a mistake will most likely not kill the baby. There are exceptions, and I've known a couple women who did, then later in life had two or three children when they were ready for them. It was not a decision they took lightly, but they felt it was best for them and the aborted fetus due to their circumstances at the time.

But where I fully support abortion is for the irresponsible people. I don't want them bringing more irresponsible people into this world - especially if they don't want them to begin with. Forcing them to keep the child will not teach them anything. They will not change and become reaponsible. Most likely the kid becomes neglected at best, or abused. Possibly worse...
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I don't buy that argument because there are long lines for parents wanting to adopt newborns.

I also don't buy that argument because the same argument could be applied before are after birth, and after birth would be considered murder.
 
Djarum300 said:
I don't buy that argument because there are long lines for parents wanting to adopt newborns.

I also don't buy that argument because the same argument could be applied before are after birth, and after birth would be considered murder.
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I've only known 3 or 4 people who tried to adopt. 3 of them wound up adopting from other countries (Russia, Asia) because it was such a PITA to adopt an American baby. And much more expensive to go along with the hassle. The other couple, sadly, could not have children of their own and were rejected when they tried to adopt. They are both young, have good jobs, but aren't "healthy" enough. They are overweight, but damn good people. I guess it's better kids stay in foster care forever than be with financially secure, loving, fat parents. They decided to adopt dogs instead of foreign humans.

Not really an abortion issue there, but the adoption scene, from what I've heard second hand, is a soul crushing clusterf-k of red tape and ungodly fees.
 
Back to abortion... I know I look at life different than most. I never really cared for kids - even when I was one, and don't care for people as a whole for the most part. So I guess I don't necessarily see where ALL life is necessarily precious or worth preserving. And if I put myself in that fetus' womb... I'd rather be aborted than be alive, unwanted, and stuck in a shitty life. So in my mind, it's the humane thing to do - the unborn will not suffer. It will not even know it existed.

I respect that you all love babies and think everyone deserves a chance at life. I really do. I just hold a different opinion on what may be best for the unborn and society in general.
 
9andaWiggle said:
Back to abortion... I know I look at life different than most. I never really cared for kids - even when I was one, and don't care for people as a whole for the most part. So I guess I don't necessarily see where ALL life is necessarily precious or worth preserving. And if I put myself in that fetus' womb... I'd rather be aborted than be alive, unwanted, and stuck in a shitty life. So in my mind, it's the humane thing to do - the unborn will not suffer. It will not even know it existed.

I respect that you all love babies and think everyone deserves a chance at life. I really do. I just hold a different opinion on what may be best for the unborn and society in general.
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And here I thought I was a cynic.
 
SOUNDS LIKE TRUMP NEEDS TO TACKLE THE ADOPTION THING.
AND G, STOPPING A HEART IS A BAD ANALOGY. ITS NOT REALLY DEFINED. SOLDIERS KILL SOLDIERS. STATES GIVE LETHAL INJECTIONS. PEOPLE DIE ON THE OPERATING TABLE. I DONT REALLY HAVE A GOOD OPINION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BUT, IF A NURSE IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION IS RAPED BY SEVERAL "INMATES", HER CHOICE TO DO SOMETHING. GIRL GOES OUT AND GETS DRUNK, SLEEPS WITH A GUY SHE DIDNT MEAN TO...SHOULD HAVE STAYED SOBER.
 
No I am saying that I would be forcing a view on her.

Guess you could say that is a brainfart :)

Robadat said:
If you are pro-life, why would you tell your wife to abort? Isn't that contradictory to your belief?
I think the proper question would be would you tell your wife not to abort an unplanned pregnancy? And if she did want to abort, would you support her decision?
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livespive said:
Interesting, but you can see where all would want to march.

I would say that Trump might be the straw that broke the camels back, but it wasn't just the grab the pussy issue that came up with Trump.
There was the beauty contest, the incident with the contest winner at the gym, his comments in the interview about a woman's place. And there are others.

That would be why I would think that a "just one type of woman" march scenario isn't valid. even if you tried to keep it to just the things that they were upset about with Trump, there a lot.
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If that is all the left has to expose, fine. The ties to Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Frank Marshall Davis, Weather Underground, ties to Communism that OBAMA was part of worried me much worse. Your trusting MSM was more than willing to give Obama a pass on his background. Double standard tactics run amok.
 
Not really a double standard as much as why didn't you organize a march? :)


REVerse ° said:
If that is all the left has to expose, fine. The ties to Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Frank Marshall Davis, Weather Underground, ties to Communism that OBAMA was part of worried me much worse. Your trusting MSM was more than willing to give Obama a pass on his background. Double standard tactics run amok.
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