Interesting discussion I was listening to

Djarum300

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So, what say you great thought leaders of the AB forum.

I was listening to a podcast where the guest/hosts were talking about internet and Porn. The host claims that the internet is public, and that porn on the internet should be treated the same as a flasher who flashes in the street and gets arrested. The other host made the claim that it's the parents fault for letting a child access to porn on the internet. The other host disagreed, saying, that a store would be punished if they allowed someone in the back room of a dirty video store or sold a magazine to a minor.

One host is basically advocating for arrests of those who post porn or allow the posts of porn on "public websites" and that porn websites should be heavily regulated. The other guest is saying that its up to the parents.


My own take is this. The internet is like a library. The library is in the public space, and one has to physically go to access the books. This goes the same for the internet. Now, in the case of a store, the gatekeeper is the clerk denying access to pornography to a minor. In the case of the library, it's the librarian/workers. In a library, however, there really isn't much that librarians are going to do if a minor reads explicit material because I'm not sure that most libraries have explicit material sequestered.

This idea that this is the same as "the flasher" who'd get arrested is just a terrible analogy. This is worse than the take I saw a week ago when a leftist said how is pride events with nudity any different than the nude Florida beaches that Desantis allows. A parent would have to take a minor to the nude beach and could be subject to arrest. Why not at a pride event? The problem here is that some parents might not have known what explicit actions would occur at a pride event. Some might and not care.

So this all begs the question. What do we do about easily access porn and who's at fault?

States requiring ID for porn are moving in the right direction. The fundamental issue is that most porn websites are out of country, and the only solution might be for the country to deny access to those websites. If that happens, I'm not sure we'd be any better than the CCP.
 

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
In my book, porn is no different than alcohol, cigarettes, or anything else for that matter. It should also be protected by the 1st amendment. The internet does NOT need to be protected. Adults do NOT need to be protected. Children need to be protected, and that's the business of the parents. If they can give devices to their kids then they need to install safety precautions on them. Browsers should come with parental controls, and websites containing adult material should be rated in the same way TV and motion pictures are rated. EVERY website should carry a rating. Parents could easily just block whatever ratings they desire. BUT, we cannot allow any part of the net to be censored.
 

Djarum300

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In my book, porn is no different than alcohol, cigarettes, or anything else for that matter. It should also be protected by the 1st amendment. The internet does NOT need to be protected. Adults do NOT need to be protected. Children need to be protected, and that's the business of the parents. If they can give devices to their kids then they need to install safety precautions on them. Browsers should come with parental controls, and websites containing adult material should be rated in the same way TV and motion pictures are rated. EVERY website should carry a rating. Parents could easily just block whatever ratings they desire. BUT, we cannot allow any part of the net to be censored.
I agree on most points but teens can easily bypass controls these days. I don't know what the answer is here.
 

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
I agree on most points but teens can easily bypass controls these days. I don't know what the answer is here.
Again, though, censoring porn is simply another group attempting to force their morals upon everyone else. It's no different than forcing pronouns, drag story hour, burning books, or banning the Dukes of Hazzard.
 

9andaWiggle

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I agree on most points but teens can easily bypass controls these days. I don't know what the answer is here.
Teens have always been able to get porn. Whether raiding Grandpa's stash of nudie magazines, finding Dad's hidden 8mm reels (or vhs/dvd, etc), or having a friend that's just old enough to buy stuff for them.

I had a friend whose dad had a satellite dish (when they were as big as a trampoline) and a subscription to the X-rated channels. He figured out the pass code. His dad also kept the liquor locked up in the den. Guess who found the hiding spot for the key? Yep. So once his parents went to bed, he'd sneak in and drink his dad's whiskey and watch his porn.
 

REVerse °

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The internet does not need censorship, in my opinion. That would be "illegal." <<<

I like the idea of a browser ratings system (e.g. G, PG, R, M) to protect kids.

Getting exposed to porn at young ages can be catastrophic. I was in the 4th grade hanging out at my girlfriends house and she had access to her dad's porn stash. When he was gone we would go through it. This was no Playboy stash. It was hardcore smut, ya'll. I still have flashbacks to this day and wish it never happened. It does something to your brain that can't be reversed.
 

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
The internet does not need censorship, in my opinion. That would be "illegal." <<<

I like the idea of a browser ratings system (e.g. G, PG, R, M) to protect kids.

Getting exposed to porn at young ages can be catastrophic. I was in the 4th grade hanging out at my girlfriends house and she had access to her dad's porn stash. When he was gone we would go through it. This was no Playboy stash. It was hardcore smut, ya'll. I still have flashbacks to this day and wish it never happened. It does something to your brain that can't be reversed.

Yes, now take that info and apply it to what our kids are receiving in public schools today. Drag queens, pride parades and naked fags. But, it's all in the name of inclusivity.
 

Djarum300

Addicted Member
Again, though, censoring porn is simply another group attempting to force their morals upon everyone else. It's no different than forcing pronouns, drag story hour, burning books, or banning the Dukes of Hazzard.
What I'm asking is how do we censor it for kids? In the old days, you couldn't just walk into a video store as a child and get a nudie vid. Now a child can just go to a plethora of websites and just say that they are over 18 or 19.

I also think nudie magazines of 30 years ago aren't the same as the amount of video and fetish available today.
 

Djarum300

Addicted Member
The internet does not need censorship, in my opinion. That would be "illegal." <<<

I like the idea of a browser ratings system (e.g. G, PG, R, M) to protect kids.

Getting exposed to porn at young ages can be catastrophic. I was in the 4th grade hanging out at my girlfriends house and she had access to her dad's porn stash. When he was gone we would go through it. This was no Playboy stash. It was hardcore smut, ya'll. I still have flashbacks to this day and wish it never happened. It does something to your brain that can't be reversed.
Well, that's what the host was saying about porn in the internet. We arrest people who flash in a public place (ie censor). Internet to some degree is a public place.

The argument of a flasher (drag show...etc) in front of kids is that how's it any different than porn in the internet in which no one is arrested?
 

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
Every website should have to be rated. On all devices a rating system should be implemented where the parents can password the Control software and tell it which websites are safe and which are not. They can set the software to block any websites they see fit and password protected.
 
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