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    On June 19th, after four months of deliberation, the USBC announced that they had certified the two 900 series award claims that were shot during unopposed pre-bowling for a youth league by Robert Mushtare of Carthage, NY, making him the youngest 900 shooter to ever be certified as well as the first bowler to shoot multiple 900s. He had previously turned in a 900 series in November, which was declined. He was said to have claimed two others in practice.
    After Glenn Allison and 5-6 other bowlers since the 1930s had had 900s declined for various reasons, including illegal lane conditions, I was very surprised that USBC certified Robert’s 900s, considering the circumstances (pre-bowled and unopposed).
    I had read and heard hundreds of posts and opinions about his claims on the internet, mostly negative, without hearing anything from him personally. I decided to try and interview Robert myself. Once contacted, he was very open to doing the interview. You can draw your own conclusions.


    JK: Robby, how old are you?
    RM: Seventeen

    JK: Are you a senior in High School?
    RM: I’ll graduate this Friday

    JK: If I ’m correct, you shot a 900 in November that was turned down by USBC. Is that right?
    RM: Yes, November.

    JK: Then, you shot another 900 in December and another 900 in February, correct?
    RM: Yes.

    JK: Robby, could you please explain what the series of circumstances were that led you to have to pre-bowl…which resulted in the 900s in all three cases?
    RM: I had school functions for the first two and I was going to the PBA Pro-Am when league was bowling for the 3rd one.

    JK: Were those the only times you pre-bowled in that league?
    RM: No, there were a few other times, but only some 700s…no award scores.

    JK: So, all the other award scores you have shot came during a regularly scheduled league?
    RM: Yeah.

    JK: Were you bowling alone for all three 900s?
    RM: No, only the first and second one. The third one was a doubles league. I was bowling with Jamie Grimm.

    JK: How did he bowl?
    RM: He had 741 and his first 300.

    JK: So, the two of you had four 300s out of six games?
    RM: (Pause) Yeah.
    JK: What time of day was your pre-bowling? I’ve heard differing stories.
    RM: I shot the first two at about noon. The last one was about 6:30 pm.

    JK: How did you feel about the first one getting turned down?
    RM: I was upset.

    JK: Did you understand why the USBC turned it down?
    RM: Yeah, but I didn’t do anything wrong. I had paid my dues, but the local association didn’t do their part.

    JK: How long did you practice before you started pre-bowling?
    RM: Well, the machine was set for 10 minutes, but I never take that long.

    JK: So, you bowled until you were warmed up, then turned them on bowl?
    RM: Yeah, I just told the desk guy when I was ready to start.

    JK: Was there someone in the center each time?
    RM: Yeah

    JK: Was your father there for any of the 900s?
    RM: No

    JK: Does he own the center? That’s the story going around.
    RM: No, its owned by the government. It’s on an Army base

    JK: What kind of ball did you use for all three?
    RM: I used a Paradigm for the first and second one. For the last one, I used an X-Factor Ace.

    JK: How were they laid out?
    RM: To go deep, you know, down the lane.

    JK: You’re not sure if they were stacked leverage or 5”x3” or whatever?
    RM: I just tell my ball driller what I want it to do and he drills it that way.

    JK: How would you describe your style…Cranker? Power Tweener? Stroker?
    RM: A power tweener, I guess.

    JK: What is your rev rate?
    RM: Don’t know

    JK: Do you know your axis tilt or axis rotation?
    RM: No

    JK: I’m sure you are aware of all the skepticism around the country about your scores? How do you feel about that?
    RM: Well, people talk and that upsets me. But, I can’t dwell on it. I want to go
    further with my bowling, so I can’t dwell on it.

    JK: I’ve heard by rumor that on the internet you said that you can tell when a tap is coming and adjust before you throw the shot. Is that true?
    RM: I’ve been misunderstood. There has been a lot written.

    JK: Okay, what is the story on that?
    RM: My dad has worked with me for years on that…being able to adjust. You can tell by the way the pins are falling that you’re getting ready to leave a 10 pin. That’s what I mean. I try to move earlier so I won’t leave any. You can ask anyone. I leave a lot fewer 10 pins than most bowlers.

    JK: Do you have plans or ambitions on turning pro?
    RM: Yes, in a few years…after college.

    JK: Have any colleges expressed interest or offered scholarships?
    RM: Saginaw Valley wanted me to come out there, but it’s too far.

    JK: What are your goals at Junior Gold this year?
    RM: I’d like to make the team of course. But, just finishing plus would be a good goal. It’ll be my first time on a sports pattern.

    JK: There will be some college coaches there. Do you hope to impress them?
    RM: What do you mean?

    JK: Well, obviously, everyone will be watching you. If you happen to impress a college coach enough with your game, you might get offered a scholarship?
    RM: Oh, yeah.

    JK: If I heard right, you also had two 900s in practice. Is that correct?
    RM: Yeah

    JK: Were you just practicing and counted 36 in a row or were you keeping score?
    RM: The scorers were on for both of them.

    JK: So, why do you think you have been able to achieve these feats…three 900s in league and two more 900s in practice…when millions of bowlers before you, including PBA members, haven’t even been able to shoot one 900?
    RM: Luck, I guess. I’ve been real lucky. I’ve also spent lots of hours in practice.

    JK: When USBC interviewed you, did they ask you to take a polygraph test?
    RM: No

    JK: Would you be willing to take one?
    RM: I don’t really see why. (pause) I don’t think so. (pause) I guess I would if I absolutely had to.

    JK: Is there anything you’d like to say that you haven’t been given a chance to say anywhere else?
    RM: No, I can’t think of anything.

    JK: This is your chance to answer your critics.
    RM: Nah.

    JK: Is there a question that you wished you’d been asked?
    RM: No. The local papers have asked me a lot of questions.
    It happened.

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    Good interview Jim. It seems, from the way you wrote the response, you caught him off guard with the polygraph test question. I wish I could see a sit-down interview with him. I would also like to delve more into who was in the center when he prebowled and so on. I would really be interested in watching his body language while he answers the questions.
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    Nice job Jim!

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    Nice interview. I still think this kid is full of it. If the lanes were that easy is that like putting from 50 feet into a bowl with the hole at the bottom of the bowl??? I would like to see the kid bowl in person. Is he better than PDW,WRW and Earl, who never shot 900???? I am calling shenanigans on this guy!!!!
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    Great interview Jim.

    I still think he is full of s**t.

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    So he has so-called 5!!! 900s and he says JOG this summer will be his first time on a sport shot? Hell, even Rev-O has left the wall a few times before he shoots a handful of 900s. Good f'in luck Bobby, you are going to need it.
    Jim, great interview, but he doesn't seem much like the "talkative" type about this matter.
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    RM: My dad has worked with me for years on that…being able to adjust. You can tell by the way the pins are falling that you’re getting ready to leave a 10 pin. That’s what I mean. I try to move earlier so I won’t leave any. You can ask anyone. I leave a lot fewer 10 pins than most bowlers
    Well, maybe this kids could teach WRWjr, Voss, TJ, and Weber how to do this.

    If that shot is so easy that he and his buddy can shoot 4 300's in 6 games, shouldn't any 220 average bowler or any PBA member be able to go in there and shoot 900? Is he the best in the house? Other then his 900's, what other high sets have been shot there during league or tournaments there when it's a full house?

    The only way to exonerate himself would be for him to take a polygraph test..........along with him parents and the other kids that was bowling with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHose
    The only way to exonerate himself would be for him to take a polygraph test..........along with him parents and the other kids that was bowling with him.
    Well, we could start a fund on here to pay to send an examiner up there. If he "passes" then I will be the first to apoligize. However, if he doesn't, then I say he has to agree to have all his "honor" scores removed from USBC's records.
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    That was a really good interview Jim.

    I hope for his sake he learns to live with himself with his lies.

    Unfortunatly, WE (USBC Members) will have to live with it as well.
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    Something else interesting going on here.

    Jamie Grimm, who bowled with Robby on Feb 19th, 2006. According to USBC, his membership wasn't submitted until the 20th of Feb. What's up with that? Can you just bowl all you want and after you get an honor score decide to sign up to recieve your award?

    Jamie G Grimm
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    Paid National Dues Through: Watertown USBC Youth (85333)
    Date Membership Card Information Sent To Fulfillment House: 2/20/2006
    Date Fulfillment House Confirmed Receipt From USBC: 2/21/2006
    Date Card Was Mailed To Member: 3/1/2006


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    I'd put money on letting Duke and TJ or any other two bowlers shoot on the biggest wall in the world and bet against them shooting 1641 for a total of six games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHose
    Something else interesting going on here.

    Jamie Grimm, who bowled with Robby on Feb 19th, 2006. According to USBC, his membership wasn't submitted until the 20th of Feb. What's up with that? Can you just bowl all you want and after you get an honor score decide to sign up to recieve your award?



    I'd put money on letting Duke and TJ or any other two bowlers shoot on the biggest wall in the world and beat against them shooting 1641 for a total of six games.
    I say USBC needs to get in this house and start digging. This whole thing smells worse than an outhouse that has been baking in the hot July sun. No wonder his buddy only shot one 300 that day. He had even been sanctioned yet so they didn't want to raise too many red flags. Let me guess...it was the first time young Jamie picked up a ball?
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    Nice one still not 100% about it all......

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    Jim, i'm just wondering how you surely know it was Robby. I'm assuming this interview was over the phone? did you contact him threw their local association? I'm just wondering, in the past, even espn has had fooled by people who posed as someone for phone interviews. None the less, this was a great interview, doesn't seem like the kid has much to say, and is trying to stay out of the public eye. Also, for all of those calling for a polygraph test, they can be tricked. This kid can stand in front of the mirror for 20 hours a day telling himself "i shot 900 5 times" and actually convince himself that he did it. Thus, no reason for a polygraph.
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    I disagree. It takes a certain type of person to beat a polygraph. I doubt a 17 year old has been able to master what all is needed to beat one, especially one administered by a seasoned professional.
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    I believe a polygraph works because it measures answers given off the readings of answers that are true, such as starting such as "is your name" "are you this old" etc. etc. etc. If he was to answer these questions with a sense of falsehood, then any other lies he told later would not show up. Or as if i said earlier, he actually has said so many times that he did it, he has already has it set in his mind that he actually did do it. I just dont see anyway he would take a polygraph test, unless he and his family were 100% certain he would pass it. There is no need for him to do it, and even if in some act of trying to prove people wrong, he does take on and ends up "not passing" is the USBC really going to take them away? Can they take them away? or would they just be staring at a lawsuit again? One last thought, on the topic of if was shown he was lying about shooting the 900s. What if say, 20-30 years down the road, due to some tragic event in his life, or just being hit with guilt, he comes out and says he lied, he never did, and all were fake. Would/Could, in the way the USBC is set up in terms of rules right now, unsanction, or take away these award scores?
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