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    Finger Dancing


    In today's world of the average bowler bringing 8 balls just to bowl league, I think a very important part of the game is not being learned and practiced. This is the fine art of releases and hand positions. With different releases you can make a hook monster go straight or a very tame ball hook the lane. But that is the extreme of what a bowler with a good hand can do. In this article I am going to talk more about how you can fine tune your ball reaction to increase control just by using different finger positions. This can greatly increase your carry percentage and give you easier spares to shoot at. You have to try each finger position yourself and pay close attention to your ball reaction.


    First let's look at the position of your index finger. That little guy can make a pretty big difference in your ball reaction. I suggest you start with your index finger spread in a comfortable position, about half as far as you can spread it wide away from your middle finger. Keep your little finger flat on the ball and tight against your ring finger. I call this our "base" finger position and the one I think we should always start of with. Throw a few shots and get a good idea of your ball reaction. Notice not only how much the ball hooks but the shape of the hook.

    This is our "base" finger position.

    Now spread the index finger wider and throw it again. In most cases that will give you a stronger back end reaction. Sometimes that alone is enough to get the 10 pin out or make the ball "turn the corner" a little harder when you need it to. Just by moving this index finger in and out a half inch at the time you can fine tune your ball reaction a great deal.

    Index spread wide. In this photo the little finger is curled.

    Now try pulling your index finger in closer to your middle finger but leave just a little space. This is less spread than our "base" starting position. For most people it is best not to pull the finger all the way in tight against your middle finger, because the ball can feel a little unstable in your hand. So leave just a little space. This time when you throw the ball it will go longer down the lane with a less pronounced back end. You can use this when your line just starts to dry out or you just need to get the ball further down the lane before it hooks

    Both fingers are in. You may want to leave just a little more space between your index and your middle than this picture shows. But if you can pull it in this tight and not have the ball feel unstable in your hand that's great.

    Now let's look at the little finger. It can work in concert with the index finger to give you different ball reactions. With the index finger in the middle "base" position or a little wider and the little finger spread wide your ball will have a much weaker back end. If you watch the pro's on TV you will see them use this position a lot, if not most of the time. It causes the ball to have a back end reaction that diminishes as it gets closer to the head pin. In most cases you don't want the ball to just keep hooking and hooking. This can cause bad pin carry and cause the ball to be much harder to control.

    Both fingers are spread. Most common position on the pro tour. Keep in mind though that those guys have lots of RPMs.

    Next let's slide the index finger in and leave the little finger spread wide. This will give you more end over end roll and take a lot of hook off of the ball. This is good to use when the the lanes are hooking a bit much or you need to play a very direct down and in line. If you really need to get behind the ball then try also to roll the ball more with the little finger.

    Yes I know your little finger is not in a hole so how can you roll the ball with it? Well what I mean is, guide the ball with the little finger. Make your little finger go toward your target and feel your little finger come up the back of the ball. If you have never tried it, you will be amazed how much you can change the roll on a ball just by rolling it more with the little finger or your index finger. You can also squeeze ever so slightly with your ring finger in the hole and lead and roll the ball more with that finger than the middle finger to yet again change your roll and ball reaction. The same goes for your middle finger.

    The little finger is wide and the index is in. This is a good way to do it if you need to throw the ball pretty straight. I shoot at my spares like this. Just by keeping my hand directly behind the ball (actually it feels like I am throwing a back up ball but I am not) and coming up the back of the ball with my little finger I can throw the ball almost dead straight. It helps if I make my little finger go toward my target.

    For our next trick let's try curling the little finger under and spread our index finger wide. To curl your little finger just bend it at the first joint so the ball will be next to the finger nail. This can be a little painful the first few times you try it. But most people don't have a problem with it after a while. Now when you roll your next ball it will tend to go longer down the lane but come back strongly on the back end. Some people have a hard time with this one with pain in the hand or fingers. If that happens to you then don't keep doing it.

    Little finger curled under and the index finger spread wide.



    Notice I have not said anything about changing your revs or changing your release in any way. Only changing your finger positions. These finger positions are for fine tuning your ball reaction to help it match up better with the lane and knock down more pins. To be able to use these finger positions effectively, you must practice them and understand what they do for you. I will expand this in a later update so check back often. I will include wrist positions and show step by step photos of how the best pros in the business throw their balls.

    This article is reprinted with permission from Bowl4Fun.com. Ron Clifton is well known around the country for his unique training techniques and original thinking. He coaches some of the top Professional bowlers in the southern region. Ron is also the inventor of Ron C's Magic Carpet. This is a new type of thumb insert that is helping bowlers across the country win tournaments and set records. He is also a Co-proprietor of Creekside Lanes in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Visit Bowl4Fun.com to learn more about Ron and Creekside Lanes. He can be contacted directly at rclifton@triad.rr.com
    In today's world of the average bowler bringing 8 balls just to bowl league, I think a very important part of the game is not being learned and practiced. This is the fine art of releases and hand positions. With different releases you can make a hook monster go straight or a very tame ball hook the lane. But that is the extreme of what a bowler with a good hand can do. In this article I am going to talk more about how you can fine tune your ball reaction to increase control just by using different finger positions. This can greatly increase your carry percentage and give you easier spares to shoot at. You have to try each finger position yourself and pay close attention to your ball reaction.


    First let's look at the position of your index finger. That little guy can make a pretty big difference in your ball reaction. I suggest you start with your index finger spread in a comfortable position, about half as far as you can spread it wide away from your middle finger. Keep your little finger flat on the ball and tight against your ring finger. I call this our "base" finger position and the one I think we should always start of with. Throw a few shots and get a good idea of your ball reaction. Notice not only how much the ball hooks but the shape of the hook.

    This is our "base" finger position.

    Now spread the index finger wider and throw it again. In most cases that will give you a stronger back end reaction. Sometimes that alone is enough to get the 10 pin out or make the ball "turn the corner" a little harder when you need it to. Just by moving this index finger in and out a half inch at the time you can fine tune your ball reaction a great deal.

    Index spread wide. In this photo the little finger is curled.

    Now try pulling your index finger in closer to your middle finger but leave just a little space. This is less spread than our "base" starting position. For most people it is best not to pull the finger all the way in tight against your middle finger, because the ball can feel a little unstable in your hand. So leave just a little space. This time when you throw the ball it will go longer down the lane with a less pronounced back end. You can use this when your line just starts to dry out or you just need to get the ball further down the lane before it hooks

    Both fingers are in. You may want to leave just a little more space between your index and your middle than this picture shows. But if you can pull it in this tight and not have the ball feel unstable in your hand that's great.

    Now let's look at the little finger. It can work in concert with the index finger to give you different ball reactions. With the index finger in the middle "base" position or a little wider and the little finger spread wide your ball will have a much weaker back end. If you watch the pro's on TV you will see them use this position a lot, if not most of the time. It causes the ball to have a back end reaction that diminishes as it gets closer to the head pin. In most cases you don't want the ball to just keep hooking and hooking. This can cause bad pin carry and cause the ball to be much harder to control.

    Both fingers are spread. Most common position on the pro tour. Keep in mind though that those guys have lots of RPMs.

    Next let's slide the index finger in and leave the little finger spread wide. This will give you more end over end roll and take a lot of hook off of the ball. This is good to use when the the lanes are hooking a bit much or you need to play a very direct down and in line. If you really need to get behind the ball then try also to roll the ball more with the little finger.

    Yes I know your little finger is not in a hole so how can you roll the ball with it? Well what I mean is, guide the ball with the little finger. Make your little finger go toward your target and feel your little finger come up the back of the ball. If you have never tried it, you will be amazed how much you can change the roll on a ball just by rolling it more with the little finger or your index finger. You can also squeeze ever so slightly with your ring finger in the hole and lead and roll the ball more with that finger than the middle finger to yet again change your roll and ball reaction. The same goes for your middle finger.

    The little finger is wide and the index is in. This is a good way to do it if you need to throw the ball pretty straight. I shoot at my spares like this. Just by keeping my hand directly behind the ball (actually it feels like I am throwing a back up ball but I am not) and coming up the back of the ball with my little finger I can throw the ball almost dead straight. It helps if I make my little finger go toward my target.

    For our next trick let's try curling the little finger under and spread our index finger wide. To curl your little finger just bend it at the first joint so the ball will be next to the finger nail. This can be a little painful the first few times you try it. But most people don't have a problem with it after a while. Now when you roll your next ball it will tend to go longer down the lane but come back strongly on the back end. Some people have a hard time with this one with pain in the hand or fingers. If that happens to you then don't keep doing it.

    Little finger curled under and the index finger spread wide.



    Notice I have not said anything about changing your revs or changing your release in any way. Only changing your finger positions. These finger positions are for fine tuning your ball reaction to help it match up better with the lane and knock down more pins. To be able to use these finger positions effectively, you must practice them and understand what they do for you. I will expand this in a later update so check back often. I will include wrist positions and show step by step photos of how the best pros in the business throw their balls.

    This article is reprinted with permission from Bowl4Fun.com. Ron Clifton is well known around the country for his unique training techniques and original thinking. He coaches some of the top Professional bowlers in the southern region. Ron is also the inventor of Ron C's Magic Carpet. This is a new type of thumb insert that is helping bowlers across the country win tournaments and set records. He is also a Co-proprietor of Creekside Lanes in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Visit Bowl4Fun.com to learn more about Ron and Creekside Lanes. He can be contacted directly at rclifton@triad.rr.com
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    very interesting....I always tuck me little finger....amazing how self taught bowlers don't know this basics....My goal for summer league is to break that habbit....
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    Used to bowl with my pinkie untucked, but I have more control and revs with it tucked.

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    I used to tuck my pinkie back when I first started bowling. Was just some weird habit I started. Someone got me out of it and I have not done it since. Although I do spread my fingers out sometimes, I usually do not think about it.

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    I be real interested to hear from some of our bowling guru's if they use this technique or not....Smurf, Rudy,Cj and others that usually cash at tournaments......
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    usually use the widespread but i will try the other positions to see what kinda reactions i get

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    I"ve done with all the fingers close together, I always did that with my ten pins, then I learned how to drow it flat handed. that was very nice.
    I'll be trying these tips to see what I'll get out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Nonk View Post
    I be real interested to hear from some of our bowling guru's if they use this technique or not....Smurf, Rudy,Cj and others that usually cash at tournaments......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel View Post
    I"ve done with all the fingers close together, I always did that with my ten pins, then I learned how to drow it flat handed. that was very nice.
    I'll be trying these tips to see what I'll get out of it.
    WALKER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any questions????

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    I just read this article. Good read.

    I actually use these finger postions quite a bit. It helps when you can't afford to buy a ball for every single situation.
    I've learned when and when not to use. It all comes back to practice. Lol

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    Ron is a great coach. I both use "finger dancing" and teach it to my students as well. With 4 balls and 2 speeds, you have 8 "tools" in your tool box, but with mastery of 2 additional hand positions, you have 24. Makes sense, but as Ron says, you have to practice them regularly enough that you won't be hesitant to go to one of them in competition.

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    This seems like a great method for having ball reaction adjustments. Not sure how this compares to making hand position adjustments (those typically described by moving the fingers to different times on the clock) but it does seem much easier to maintain these "finger dancing" adjustments throughout the shot. When making the "clock" adjustments I often find myself focusing a lot on trying to maintain that hand position through the shot that some other vital mechanic goes astray. Will try these at my next practice session and get back with my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post

    In today's world of the average bowler bringing 8 balls just to bowl league, I think a very important part of the game is not being learned and practiced. This is the fine art of releases and hand positions. With different releases you can make a hook monster go straight or a very tame ball hook the lane. But that is the extreme of what a bowler with a good hand can do. In this article I am going to talk more about how you can fine tune your ball reaction to increase control just by using different finger positions. This can greatly increase your carry percentage and give you easier spares to shoot at. You have to try each finger position yourself and pay close attention to your ball reaction.


    First let's look at the position of your index finger. That little guy can make a pretty big difference in your ball reaction. I suggest you start with your index finger spread in a comfortable position, about half as far as you can spread it wide away from your middle finger. Keep your little finger flat on the ball and tight against your ring finger. I call this our "base" finger position and the one I think we should always start of with. Throw a few shots and get a good idea of your ball reaction. Notice not only how much the ball hooks but the shape of the hook.

    This is our "base" finger position.

    Now spread the index finger wider and throw it again. In most cases that will give you a stronger back end reaction. Sometimes that alone is enough to get the 10 pin out or make the ball "turn the corner" a little harder when you need it to. Just by moving this index finger in and out a half inch at the time you can fine tune your ball reaction a great deal.

    Index spread wide. In this photo the little finger is curled.

    Now try pulling your index finger in closer to your middle finger but leave just a little space. This is less spread than our "base" starting position. For most people it is best not to pull the finger all the way in tight against your middle finger, because the ball can feel a little unstable in your hand. So leave just a little space. This time when you throw the ball it will go longer down the lane with a less pronounced back end. You can use this when your line just starts to dry out or you just need to get the ball further down the lane before it hooks

    Both fingers are in. You may want to leave just a little more space between your index and your middle than this picture shows. But if you can pull it in this tight and not have the ball feel unstable in your hand that's great.

    Now let's look at the little finger. It can work in concert with the index finger to give you different ball reactions. With the index finger in the middle "base" position or a little wider and the little finger spread wide your ball will have a much weaker back end. If you watch the pro's on TV you will see them use this position a lot, if not most of the time. It causes the ball to have a back end reaction that diminishes as it gets closer to the head pin. In most cases you don't want the ball to just keep hooking and hooking. This can cause bad pin carry and cause the ball to be much harder to control.

    Both fingers are spread. Most common position on the pro tour. Keep in mind though that those guys have lots of RPMs.

    Next let's slide the index finger in and leave the little finger spread wide. This will give you more end over end roll and take a lot of hook off of the ball. This is good to use when the the lanes are hooking a bit much or you need to play a very direct down and in line. If you really need to get behind the ball then try also to roll the ball more with the little finger.

    Yes I know your little finger is not in a hole so how can you roll the ball with it? Well what I mean is, guide the ball with the little finger. Make your little finger go toward your target and feel your little finger come up the back of the ball. If you have never tried it, you will be amazed how much you can change the roll on a ball just by rolling it more with the little finger or your index finger. You can also squeeze ever so slightly with your ring finger in the hole and lead and roll the ball more with that finger than the middle finger to yet again change your roll and ball reaction. The same goes for your middle finger.

    The little finger is wide and the index is in. This is a good way to do it if you need to throw the ball pretty straight. I shoot at my spares like this. Just by keeping my hand directly behind the ball (actually it feels like I am throwing a back up ball but I am not) and coming up the back of the ball with my little finger I can throw the ball almost dead straight. It helps if I make my little finger go toward my target.

    For our next trick let's try curling the little finger under and spread our index finger wide. To curl your little finger just bend it at the first joint so the ball will be next to the finger nail. This can be a little painful the first few times you try it. But most people don't have a problem with it after a while. Now when you roll your next ball it will tend to go longer down the lane but come back strongly on the back end. Some people have a hard time with this one with pain in the hand or fingers. If that happens to you then don't keep doing it.

    Little finger curled under and the index finger spread wide.



    Notice I have not said anything about changing your revs or changing your release in any way. Only changing your finger positions. These finger positions are for fine tuning your ball reaction to help it match up better with the lane and knock down more pins. To be able to use these finger positions effectively, you must practice them and understand what they do for you. I will expand this in a later update so check back often. I will include wrist positions and show step by step photos of how the best pros in the business throw their balls.

    This article is reprinted with permission from Bowl4Fun.com. Ron Clifton is well known around the country for his unique training techniques and original thinking. He coaches some of the top Professional bowlers in the southern region. Ron is also the inventor of Ron C's Magic Carpet. This is a new type of thumb insert that is helping bowlers across the country win tournaments and set records. He is also a Co-proprietor of Creekside Lanes in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Visit Bowl4Fun.com to learn more about Ron and Creekside Lanes. He can be contacted directly at rclifton@triad.rr.com
    In today's world of the average bowler bringing 8 balls just to bowl league, I think a very important part of the game is not being learned and practiced. This is the fine art of releases and hand positions. With different releases you can make a hook monster go straight or a very tame ball hook the lane. But that is the extreme of what a bowler with a good hand can do. In this article I am going to talk more about how you can fine tune your ball reaction to increase control just by using different finger positions. This can greatly increase your carry percentage and give you easier spares to shoot at. You have to try each finger position yourself and pay close attention to your ball reaction.


    First let's look at the position of your index finger. That little guy can make a pretty big difference in your ball reaction. I suggest you start with your index finger spread in a comfortable position, about half as far as you can spread it wide away from your middle finger. Keep your little finger flat on the ball and tight against your ring finger. I call this our "base" finger position and the one I think we should always start of with. Throw a few shots and get a good idea of your ball reaction. Notice not only how much the ball hooks but the shape of the hook.

    This is our "base" finger position.

    Now spread the index finger wider and throw it again. In most cases that will give you a stronger back end reaction. Sometimes that alone is enough to get the 10 pin out or make the ball "turn the corner" a little harder when you need it to. Just by moving this index finger in and out a half inch at the time you can fine tune your ball reaction a great deal.

    Index spread wide. In this photo the little finger is curled.

    Now try pulling your index finger in closer to your middle finger but leave just a little space. This is less spread than our "base" starting position. For most people it is best not to pull the finger all the way in tight against your middle finger, because the ball can feel a little unstable in your hand. So leave just a little space. This time when you throw the ball it will go longer down the lane with a less pronounced back end. You can use this when your line just starts to dry out or you just need to get the ball further down the lane before it hooks

    Both fingers are in. You may want to leave just a little more space between your index and your middle than this picture shows. But if you can pull it in this tight and not have the ball feel unstable in your hand that's great.

    Now let's look at the little finger. It can work in concert with the index finger to give you different ball reactions. With the index finger in the middle "base" position or a little wider and the little finger spread wide your ball will have a much weaker back end. If you watch the pro's on TV you will see them use this position a lot, if not most of the time. It causes the ball to have a back end reaction that diminishes as it gets closer to the head pin. In most cases you don't want the ball to just keep hooking and hooking. This can cause bad pin carry and cause the ball to be much harder to control.

    Both fingers are spread. Most common position on the pro tour. Keep in mind though that those guys have lots of RPMs.

    Next let's slide the index finger in and leave the little finger spread wide. This will give you more end over end roll and take a lot of hook off of the ball. This is good to use when the the lanes are hooking a bit much or you need to play a very direct down and in line. If you really need to get behind the ball then try also to roll the ball more with the little finger.

    Yes I know your little finger is not in a hole so how can you roll the ball with it? Well what I mean is, guide the ball with the little finger. Make your little finger go toward your target and feel your little finger come up the back of the ball. If you have never tried it, you will be amazed how much you can change the roll on a ball just by rolling it more with the little finger or your index finger. You can also squeeze ever so slightly with your ring finger in the hole and lead and roll the ball more with that finger than the middle finger to yet again change your roll and ball reaction. The same goes for your middle finger.

    The little finger is wide and the index is in. This is a good way to do it if you need to throw the ball pretty straight. I shoot at my spares like this. Just by keeping my hand directly behind the ball (actually it feels like I am throwing a back up ball but I am not) and coming up the back of the ball with my little finger I can throw the ball almost dead straight. It helps if I make my little finger go toward my target.

    For our next trick let's try curling the little finger under and spread our index finger wide. To curl your little finger just bend it at the first joint so the ball will be next to the finger nail. This can be a little painful the first few times you try it. But most people don't have a problem with it after a while. Now when you roll your next ball it will tend to go longer down the lane but come back strongly on the back end. Some people have a hard time with this one with pain in the hand or fingers. If that happens to you then don't keep doing it.

    Little finger curled under and the index finger spread wide.



    Notice I have not said anything about changing your revs or changing your release in any way. Only changing your finger positions. These finger positions are for fine tuning your ball reaction to help it match up better with the lane and knock down more pins. To be able to use these finger positions effectively, you must practice them and understand what they do for you. I will expand this in a later update so check back often. I will include wrist positions and show step by step photos of how the best pros in the business throw their balls.

    This article is reprinted with permission from Bowl4Fun.com. Ron Clifton is well known around the country for his unique training techniques and original thinking. He coaches some of the top Professional bowlers in the southern region. Ron is also the inventor of Ron C's Magic Carpet. This is a new type of thumb insert that is helping bowlers across the country win tournaments and set records. He is also a Co-proprietor of Creekside Lanes in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Visit Bowl4Fun.com to learn more about Ron and Creekside Lanes. He can be contacted directly at rclifton@triad.rr.com
    Great tips - will definitely be using them.
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